6/13/2003 05:21:00 PM | Timothy But Everyone Lied about WMD! Josh Marshall writes: I must confess to a mounting impatience with the advocates of the president's war policy who now seem zealously intent on short-circuiting any serious debate about the rationale for the war by denying, obfuscating or simply lying about the premises of the very debate itself. ...One thing Marshall does not question is that if the entire "everybody who could credibly be called part of the foreign policy establishment" seems to have got it wrong, what does that say about the credibility (or the reliability) of the foreign policy establishment? This blogger goes further than Marshall: The only people claiming he had tons of anthrax and liters of VX and even a nuclear program was the US. That's the issue at stake. e, and to a lesser extent, the UK, Israel and maybe Russia, are the only people who really had a good eye into Iraq. Everyone else in the UN, from the inspectors down to the lowliest delegate, had to rely on what a few countries told them. The only data the UN had was four or five years out of date and certainly incomplete. We had the intelligence assets to know as much, and probably more, than the rest of the UN combined. That gave us a certain credibility. So when George Bush starts talking about liters of VX, the rest of the world is going to listen. They're going to believe, at the very least, that Saddam's got something, because the President of the US has got the CIA and the NSA and God knows what else to tell him about it. Britain and Israel agreed with us, but that doesn't mean a whole lot. For one, both of them rely heavily on our intel data (although Israel certainly has it's own pipes into Iraq. I don't remember them adding much, though). Secondly, Blair and Sharon had as big a desire to sell this war as Bush did. It wasn't just the American public that was relying on the US' intelligence stream. It was the entire world. And with the entire world listening, George Bush and his pals got up there and pushed data that was false, pushed data that wasn't credible, and pushed explanations that had far more to do with wishful thinking and desired results than objective analysis. Yes, Bush lied completely about the nature of the threat. He lied and exaggerated and overstated and did everything he could to make it look Saddam was already planning how to nuke us or disperse VX in our cities. But he also lied about there being a threat at all. With the data he had available, with the data now coming public, the best US intel could say is that Saddam might have some chemical weapons left, and probably nothing too nasty at that. There certainly was nothing reliable that he was building a nuke program (That was lie start to finish) or that he was rebuilding his chemical or biological programs. Which made the claim that Saddam was more dangerous today than at any point in the last decade a lie as well. But claiming that because the rest of the world believed Saddam had weapons means it wasn't a conspiracy is disingenuous at best. They believed he had weapons because we kept saying it. Over and over and over. Some selected excerpts from the comments section on Atrios: Kagan quotes vast numbers of people who had similar impressions of Hussein's alleged weapons. There's a lot of "strong evidence" and "it is likely" and "we think." Which is fine. The problem is, not one of these people claimed to know the specific type, quantity, and location of these chemical and biological weapons. And none of these people ordered the illegal invasion of another country. George W. Bush did both of these things, which puts him on the hook for proving his claims. perma link |
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