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4/11/2003 09:00:00 PM | Timothy

Fun with Alex Wilson

The mighty Brad "C.A." Plumer says: "So tell you what, 'loggers. When Iraq holds its first fair and free election, I'll cheer, pump my fist and break out the champagne. Until then, you won't get shit."

One of the 'loggers, Alex Wilson responds: "More important, is he actually saying this won't have been a moral thing to do until we establish a perfect democracy in Iraq?"

Notice how one fair election = perfect democracy for Wilson? A little slippery there, huh? (but Alex calls me sharp, so I'll forgive him!) Wilson also nicely takes the time to address an argument of mine no one else has, but his answer is a little silly:
Menashi's argument is that Dartmouth students need fraternities as counterweight, not the administration or even necessarily the institution as a whole. The dangers of unchecked power are to those without it. The proper analogy is that the rest of world needs intermediary institutions (i.e. the United Nations) as a counterweight to U.S. power. The U.S. on the other hand would best serve it's interests by eliminating those counterweights. As it happens, I think this revised analogy is in most respects correct (the ways it's not will have to wait for another day). But right or wrong, nothing in it makes much of a case for U.S. citizens to support checks on U.S. power."

Too easy: there's not of a case for U.S. citizens to support checks on U.S. power, unless U.S. citizens care about right and wrong, care about the well-being of citizens in other countries, don't think their interests always fully coincide with what their government decides, are concerned that continual war may undermine the democratic nature of our government here at home, care about how the rest of the world perceives them, care that other countries may eventually act against the interests of the U.S., care that they might be dragged into future wars, and/or realize that how other people in other countries view our actions ultimately affects U.S. citizens by determining what kind of world we live in.

Alex says U.S. citizens should not oppose unchecked administrative power. But the analogy akin to Menashi's reasoning is that citizens around the world should support checks on U.S. power. Untrammeled U.S. could will eventually lead to trouble for the world (and if we as U.S. citizens care about the world...). It is in the interest of Parkurst bureaucrats to say we should eliminate any counterbalance to their power, but they claimed to want to eliminate fraternities in the name of helping students, not their own interest. Similarly the U.S. now claims it is doing it for the benefit of the Iraqi people. If we only care about U.S. citizens, then do not give me any high moral preaching about we are so good and moral because we liberating Iraq. Otherwise, I think the analogy still has some potentional to be useful.

Update: to be clear, Alex Wilson seems very reasonable in his arguments on dartlog and has actually been a voice of sanity. I appreciate the tone which he has approached things, so I hope he does not take too much offense for me being quick to call his point silly. Also, at the bottom of his post "Freedom of Expression vs. Political Inquisitions", John Stevenson has talked about my post "Radical Republicans today and then" on Reconstruction during the Civil War and in Iraq (my post is way down below, from Wednesay).



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