Saturday, July 26, 2003 Amazing: Compare the quotes between father and son.
In his new book, In Praise of Nepotism, Adam Bellow, an executive editor at Doubleday and the son of novelist Saul Bellow, argues that there's good reason to hire the sons and daughters of distinguished people: They know the family business, they have a legacy to live up to and the ease of their ascent should encourage "a certain humility."
He might have added that their family heirlooms can include certain sentences.
Consider the ubiquitous William Kristol, editor of the neoconservative Weekly Standard and son of the neoconservatives' founding father, Irving Kristol.
In an op-ed piece in today's Washington Post, Kristol attacks presidential hopeful Rep. Dick Gephardt (D-Mo.) for delivering a speech criticizing President Bush for, among other things, withdrawing from the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty and Kyoto Protocol, failing to ask allies to assist with postwar peacekeeping in Iraq and making a misleading State of the Union claim about Iraqi uranium purchases.
Seizing on Gephardt's statement that "George Bush has left us less safe and secure than we were four years ago," Kristol claims that Gephardt now "stand[s] in fundamental opposition" to Bush's efforts against terrorists and rogue regimes. Kristol concludes his piece: "But the American people, whatever their doubts about aspects of Bush's foreign policy, know that Bush is serious about fighting terrorists and terrorist states that mean America harm. About Bush's Democratic critics, they know no such thing."
For students of the debates of the 1950s, those words may sound familiar, but Kristol isn't plagiarizing -- he's showing off a family heirloom. In a 1952 Commentary magazine article,Irving Kristol wrote: "There is one thing that the American people know about Sen. [Joseph] McCarthy [R-Wis.]. He, like them, is unequivocally anti-Communist. About the spokesmen for American liberalism, they feel they know no such thing. And with some justification." LINK
Posted by Jonathan,
1:30 PM
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Bit more on Davis... And I think this was probably known by most who were paying attention, but this article talks about how he is basically dodging what even generous liberals would call a weak history. I wonder whether his talk about the Right Wing Conspiracy will have a positive or a back-firing negative effect on what I think will be no small part of the next Presidential elections.
There is also an interesting comparison between Davis' dodging and Clinton in '98 - but I still don't see how the impeachment could be anything but, because it certainly wasn't protecting our country from anything. Davis' magnificent little state, however, is apparently this close to being rated next to junk bonds by Standard and Poor. Ah well.
Posted by Jared,
1:15 AM
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Friday, July 25, 2003 Recall Bonanzaa If you haven't started paying attention to the craziness developing in the California recall election, nows the time to start. It's possible that all three major candidates from the 2002 regular election could be back on the ballot--Green Peter Camejo, Republican Bill Simon, and Democratic incumbent Gray Davis. Camejo won't run if Arianna Huffington enters the race as an independent--anyone who say her speak at Dartmouth remembers her insisting that she'd never run for office, but that hasn't stopped people from organizing a draft campaign. Arnold Schwarzenegger is still mum on whether he's running, but to me, it looks likely. If Arnold's out', ex-LA mayor Richard Riordian (who lost to Simon in the 2002 primary) probably will run. Congressman Darell Issa, who's has a sketchy criminal past including charges of car theft and weapons traffiking, largely funded the petition circulations. He got the recall on the ballot, and is already in contention. Ex-Gov, Ex-Presidential Candidate, and mayor of Oakland Jerry "moonbeam" Brown may be in the thick soon too. Michael Savage, ex-MSNBC host and permanent fascist is publicly exploring a run.
When voters go to the polls on October 7, they'll vote on whether to have a recall or not. And then they'll vote on who they want to be governor. If a majority approve the first question, then they'll vote on the second. Who ever gets the most votes--and in a crowded field, it could be quite a small number--will be the Governor.
In case the Dem primaries weren't exciting enough.
Posted by Clint,
4:35 PM
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Thursday, July 24, 2003 We'd Rather Die than Change: NYT has a really interesting article about Japan's coming population decline, where its currently population of 120 million will halve by the middle of this century. This has the potential to have disastrous implications on the Japanese economy and their quality of life. The only real solution: massive immigration that would bring 18 million new immigrants to Japan. Sure, it would be tough but the Japanese have already decided against it (it seems). They would rather be poor. In a country that is supposedly Westernized, discrimination against foreigners and "unpure" Japanese is still rampant (Brad, feel free to chime in). Rather than try to work through these biases and accept a new generation of immigrants as their bretherin, Japan would rather just walk away from the table. This choice quote reflects the views of the Japanese government:
The kind of figures the demographers talk about are unimaginable for Japan," said Hiroshi Komai, a population expert at Tsukuba University. "In a quarter-century we have only absorbed one million immigrants.
"Societies have always risen and faded, and Japan will likely disappear and something else will take its place, but that's not such a problem. Greece and Rome disappeared too."LINK
I find this attitude shocking. In a world of progress where a continued improvement in the quality of life is considered a ever-present goal for governments, Japan says it would rather not change its inherent biases. Makes me glad I live in a country where almost everyone was once an immigrant.
Posted by Kumar,
5:45 PM
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Social Norms As reported in several places, a recent study shows that "Social Norms Marketing" (we do that at Dartmouth!) did not lead to students drinking less and actually led to "significant increases" in the number of students reporting that they had 20 or more drinks in the previous month, where there was no increase at 61 schools that did not do social norms marketing... More from The New York Times, Chicago Sun-Times, USA Today, and the relevant Google News Cluster.
Should former Ambassador Joseph Wilson IV get most of the credit for the Niger uranium flap? The Bush administration apparently thinks so. They've conducted a wonderful smear campaign that went so far as to out Wilson's wife-- Valerie Plame-- as an undercover CIA operative to reporter Robert Novak. David Corn reports:
The sources for Novak's assertion about Wilson's wife appear to be "two senior administration officials." If so, a pair of top Bush officials told a reporter the name of a CIA operative who apparently has worked under what's known as "nonofficial cover" and who has had the dicey and difficult mission of tracking parties trying to buy or sell weapons of mass destruction or WMD material. If Wilson's wife is such a person--and the CIA is unlikely to have many employees like her--her career has been destroyed by the Bush administration.
Now I don't really care about the whole uranium fiasco, but this is far, far different. Any government that reveals its own secret agents out of spite is either incompetent, destructive, or both. Oh, and as Corn points out, those senior officials have nicely violated the 1982 Intelligence Identities Protection Act. Good to know the Republicans are still the party of national security.
Update:Newsday reports that a Congressional probe is forthcoming.
Double update:TAPPED has more, analyzing an interview with Press Secretary Scott McLellan. And Just One Minute has a thorough summary of the whole ordeal.
Posted by Brad Plumer,
9:45 AM
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Thoughts on Recent Dartlog Posts
It appears I'm 2 for 2 being: 1) A Jew from the South 2) A recent graduate who majored in Religion and went on the FSP.
But last thing's first. Glabe's contention that "secular religious studies" is a glaring contradiction. The distinction between "religion" and "theology" is visible in the mind of only a few professors, and I'm sure disappears all together in, say, the Jewish Studies is just stupid. Very simply, to perform secular religious studies are to study a belief without espousing its doctrines. The problem these people are raising with New College is that at least half the courses offered are formal training in a religion, not about a religion. The differentiation they are making between "religion" and "theology" is the same differentiation, although the D sort of mucked it up. You can study the theology of a religion without studying to become a practitioner of that theology - a reverend - as many of the Scots at New College are doing. The Jewish Studies example is a little off, since Jewish Studies is a separate department. Nevertheless, Jewish Studies is not to train one to be a Jew, it is to learn about Judaism. That's the problem being raised by certain members of the department. The students who responded to the D also failed to mention that the classes they can take at New College are already subject to Dartmouth approval so that no one can take something like "Giving Communion 101" for credit. That explains why some of them didn't seem to feel as if they were taking a course to learn to be a practitioner of a theology.
As for Ramsay's point, well, showing one example of a Jew succeeding in the Confederacy as proof that the South is Jew -friendly is fallacious reasoning. He knows that. The South is becoming a better place for everyone these days, but it is still, for the most part, militantly Protestant. Militantly. I don't know Mr. Ramsay's religious background, but perhaps if he is not Protestant, he would enjoy a trip to the South where he can still be told that "it's not [his] fault he wasn't born Christian [because Catholics aren't Christians in the South]." It can feel like being a non-Muslim in Mecca at times. Perhaps it is equally fallacious of me to extrapolate from the modern South back to the Confederate South, where soldiers were forced to eat shoes for lack of food and perhaps egalatarianism became necessary. However, I find my assertion that for the most part people in the South at the time of the Civil War were unaccepting of difference of any sort to be far more likely than Alston's assertion to the contrary.
PS: The bit about the South being quite tolerant to other groups...I once went to visit a friend taking a history class at Clemson. He wasn't doing his reading (20 page handout) so I figured, what the hell, I'll do it and go to class with him tomorrow and be some visiting fuckhead that knows everything, for some reason, about whatever obscure topic his class is discussing. Well, I did, and I knew my stuff...about Italians being lynched in New Orleans back in times gone by...
Posted by Jonathan,
12:17 AM
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Wednesday, July 23, 2003 By the way... Yay!
Posted by Jared,
11:57 PM
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Dull Porn Ah, another travesty of justice - as reported here on CNN.com. In Cincinnati, they were enforcing some brilliant law against selling of pornography to consenting adults, but the case has been declared mistrial. The crime was selling a pornographic video, the mistrial was called because one of the jurors fell asleep and another averted her eyes during the showing of the "evidence." Now, first of all, why is this against the law? Second, since it is, what judge was thinking, well, this pornography wasn't seen by the jury in its entirety, guess the jurors couldn't judge whether or not it was sold to an undercover cop. Or maybe it just wasn't good enough porn to send a dude to jail for?
Posted by Jared,
11:52 PM
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Speaking of the Greens
Q: How many Greens does it take to change a lightbulb? A: There's no important difference between darkness and the so-called light that is created by destructive multinational corporations. The only real answer is to pruduce natural light that doesn't depend on global capitalism, by burning down the house.
Posted by Timothy,
6:37 PM
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Tolerant, except for THAT! "He [Jesse Jackson, Jr.] claimed the South would have sided with the fascists in WWII had it won the War Between the States. I don't think so. The South was, contrary to many beliefs, quite tolerant (blacks being the exception), especially when dealing with Jewish people." - Alston Ramsey on the Dartmouth Review's weblog.
p.s. I'm also guessing that the phrase "War Between the States" comes from Alston and was not used by Jackson. Just a hunch.
PLAYBOY: So you can't accept that we descended from monkeys and apes? GIBSON: No, I think it's bullshit. If it isn't, why are they still around? How come apes aren't people yet? It's a nice theory, but I can't swallow it. There's a big credibility gap. The carbon dating thing that tells you how long something's been around, how accurate is that, really? I've got one of Darwin's books at home and some of that stuff is pretty damn funny. Some of his stuff is true, like that the giraffe has a long neck so it can reach the leaves. But I just don't think you can swallow the whole piece.
Posted by Timothy,
1:55 PM
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I Still Get Angry about Nader in 2000. As I read this choice quote in the a new American Prospect article, I could feel my blood boil.
During the 2000 campaign, I used to go to bed wishing that the Christian Coalition were as strategically feebleminded, and as psychologically bent on disruption at any price, as the Greens. That way the CCers would have backed Gary Bauer, the laughably unelectable hard-right family values candidate. Then, once Bauer had been winnowed out of the nominating process, they would have claimed that his defeat showed just how corrupt the Republican Party had become from its incurable need to placate the secular humanists and "banking interests." Then they would have run some nut of their own who'd have made Bauer look like Arthur Vandenburg. Finally, with a few million misguided souls behind them, including at least a couple thousand in Florida, they would have cost George W. Bush the election, no asterisks or question marks. What a wonderful world this would be.
Posted by Kumar,
1:46 PM
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Morons about Religious Studies Here's a stupid dartlog comment: "The article largely speaks for itself, but 'secular religious studies' is a glaring contradiction." I have a mother who a full professor of religion. Even if you think there's no problem with having an FSP in at a Christian divinity school, Scott Glabe is a freaking idiot for saying secular religious studies is a contradiction, much less a glaring one. Haven't dartloggers heard of the Enlightenment and subsequent progress?
Posted by Timothy,
1:33 PM
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Tuesday, July 22, 2003 Bush propaganda (for gdog) There's a very lengthy and detailed post titled Bush the Liar, which looks like a good read with a lot of citations (check out this further link saying how Bush lied. I'm curious how these claims have been rebutted and how conservatives and others think about them-- they also use what looks like the same definition of 'lie' that Emmett used.)
Posted by Timothy,
7:06 PM
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The Great Eric Muller on Bush, Slavery, and Judging Past Generations Eric Muller writes about "Judging past generations":
Like many others, I found President Bush's speech at Goree Island off the coast of Senegal to be truly remarkable. It is exceedingly rare that a public figure so clearly articulates a condemning judgment of prior generations, and so clearly refutes the claim that it is unfair and anachronistic to judge past generations by today's standards:
At every turn, the struggle for equality was resisted by many of the powerful. And some have said we should not judge their failures by the standards of a later time, yet in every time there were men and women who clearly saw this sin and called it by name.
I am writing an essay this summer on this very problem--how we in the present should assess the wrongdoing of prior generations--and I have concluded that the point on which President Bush focused is key: Was there, in that prior generation, a sizeable group of people who parted company with the wrongdoers and resisted, condemned, or protested it? If so, then the wrongdoers' acts look a lot more like choices, and a lot less like unreflective conformity with the unquestioned standards of a given time.
The counter to the argument for condemning the wrongdoing of past generations was eloquently stated by the nineteenth century historian and legislator Lord Macaulay, who wrote:
the very considerations which lead us to look forward with sanguine hope to the future prevent us from looking back with contempt on the past. We do not flatter ourselves with the notion that we have attained perfection, that we are wiser than our ancestors. We believe, also, that our posterity will be wiser than we. It would be gross injustice in our grandchildren to talk of us with contempt, merely because they may have surpassed us . . . . As we would have our descendants judge us, so ought we to judge our fathers. In order to form a correct estimate of their merits, we ought to place ourselves in their situation, to put out of our minds, for a time, all that knowledge which they, however eager in the pursuit of truth, could not have, and which we, however negligent we may have been, could not help having. It was not merely difficult, but absolutely impossible, for the best and greatest of men, two hundred years ago, to be what a very commonplace person in our days may easily be, and indeed must necessarily be. But it is too much that the benefactors of mankind, after having been reviled by the dunces of their own generation for going too far, should be reviled by the dunces of the next generation for not going far enough.
Yesterday the president called slaveowners criminals. ("One of the largest migrations of history," said Bush, referring to the slave trade, "was also one of the greatest crimes of history.") It would be a stunning thing for a reporter to ask the President whether he really meant that Thomas Jefferson and George Washington--and even his own great- great- great-grandfather--were criminals, "[s]mall men" who "took on the powers and airs of tyrants and masters," and practicioners of "hypocrisy" and "injustice."
Posted by Timothy,
4:45 PM
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Wedding from Space postponed due to technical and legal complications. He's a Russian Cosmonaut at Mir; she's an american citizen. Heh. If these two cannot get married, what chance is there for gay marriage in outspace? I'm wondering what the rules are for being married outside any country's jurisdiction. What type of officials and whose by laws? Laws of the sea might be the first place to look.
Posted by Timothy,
4:27 PM
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Growing Links Between the Indian and Jewish Commmunity Very intersting WaPo article about a meeting of the minds between two communities that both fear "Islamic extremism." All this time, I thought all my friends were Jewish because I was a New Yorker. My uncle, who lives in DC, said that next to Indians, he considers Jews to be the minority group that agrees with and identifies with most. Very interesting. LINK
Posted by Kumar,
3:57 PM
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If abortion is murder, why shouldn't women having them be charged with a crime? Kucinich may have been out to lunch is accusing members of Congress of wanting to criminalize abortion (for the women; the bills would penalize the doctors). But isn't that the logic of the pro-life position? Well, it doesn't seem to be their goal. Here's a rationale offered by a pro-lifer:
MATTHEWS: Welcome back to HARDBALL. Last night in our “Political Buzz” segment, Congressman Dennis Kucinich, who is running for president, accused some in the United States Congress of attempting to criminalize abortions, in other words, put women in prison who’ve had abortions. *** MATTHEWS: Congressman Chris Smith represents the 4th District of New Jersey. He joins us now. Congressman Smith, do you believe in putting women in prison for having abortions? REP. CHRIS SMITH R, NEW JERSEY: Absolutely not. That was a very irresponsible and a presumptuous statement on the part of Mr. Kucinich. He’s dead wrong. Legislation including the partial-birth abortion which is making its way through Congress and all of the previous bills that have gone forward, some of which were vetoed by Bill Clinton, have an explicit piece of language in there that says no woman will be prosecuted under this act. That is the intent of what we tried to do with all of our legislation and even pre-Roe v. Wade. MATTHEWS: What is your thinking behind that? SMITH: Without a doubt, we believe and I believe in pro-life woman believes that these women are co-victims with the babies. The baby has an act of violence on him or her. Physical dismemberment or poisoning by harsh chemicals. MATTHEWS: Sure. SMITH: But the mother carries incredible psychological consequences. And as a matter of fact, I’m part of and recently hosted on Capitol Hill a Silent No More campaign. This is a group of women who have had abortions who are trying to tell others that there’s an enormous pain that they carry. They’re co-victims. And like I said, the proof is in the legislation. It clearly states something as horrific as partial-birth abortion, where the baby is partially delivered and then his or her brains are sucked out, there’s a protection that the woman will not be... *** MATTHEWS: Is there any other member of Congress, man or woman, Democrat or Republican, who advocates jailing women for abortion? SMITH: I know of absolutely no one. MATTHEWS: Let me ask you about-just a point here. We only have 30 seconds. Why is it important to put the doctor in prison or finding him heavily or her heavily when they’re operating as an agent of a woman who seeks an abortion? And in most cases, when you ask somebody to do it, you’re the principal. Why in this case would a woman not be-should not be subject to penalization? SMITH: Again, very often, women are under enormous pressure to have an abortion. They may be frightened. They’re very vulnerable. The physician, if you want to call him that, the abortionist, should know better. He’s the one who has to go in there and dismember or chemically poison an unborn child. And in the past, prior to Roe, that’s who was the subject of sanctions. You know, we have a sanction right now. If you kill a bald eagle, you get a year in prison. Kill a second bald eagle, you get five years. Partial birth abortion, we’re saying two years. MATTHEWS: That’s the bottom line, that women shouldn’t go to jail for having abortions? SMITH: Exactly right. MATTHEWS: Thank you very much. Congressman Chris Smith from New Jersey
Posted by Timothy,
3:04 PM
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Incest is best? Andrew Sullivan has an interesting citation of a marriage law in Arizona:
One of the lamest arguments against same-sex marriage is that it violates the principle that marriage is for procreation. Tell that to Pat Buchanan, who has no kids, or to the hundreds of thousands of childless couples who consider themselves rightly married. But there's even a statute in Arizona, a legal scholar/friend of mine notes, that takes this discrepancy further. It grants marriages on the grounds that at least one of the parties is infertile. Here's the statute (the cite is A.R.S. Section 25-101):
Void and prohibited marriages A. Marriage between parents and children, including grandparents and grandchildren of every degree, between brothers and sisters of the one-half as well as the whole blood, and between uncles and nieces, aunts and nephews and between first cousins, is prohibited and void. B. Notwithstanding subsection A, first cousins may marry if both are sixty-five years of age or older or if one or both first cousins are under sixty-five years of age, upon approval of any superior court judge in the state if proof has been presented to the judge that one of the cousins is unable to reproduce. C. Marriage between persons of the same sex is void and prohibited.
Note how same-sex marriages are prohibited but explicitly non-procreative near-incestuous marriages are not. A similar discrepancy occurs in the Catholic Church, which allows marriages between the infertile or the post-menopausal but denies such marriages to gay people partly on the grounds of thier inability to reproduce. When John Kerry invokes reproduction, he needs to address this argument. So do all who agree (emphasis is Sullivan's).
While that's an interesting take on that marriage law, it is a little odd that Sullivan does not comment on a strange part of this law: it allows incest, but not same-sex marriage. Does anyone else find it interesting that the statue apparently says that incest is only banned when there is the possibility of children? Apparently in Arizona, the taboo against gay marriage is more deeply felt than the taboo against incest.
Posted by Timothy,
2:47 PM
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It depends on what the definition of adultery is... From the Valley News:
A majority of New Hampshire Supreme Court justices appeared Wednesday to favor a narrow definition of adultery in their comments on a disputed Lebanon Family Court ruling that said gay extramarital sex should count as adultery.... The justices heard oral arguments in an appeal brought by a gay woman from Brownsville who is accused of adultery in the pending divorce action of a Hanover couple. "My position is New Hampshire has no same-sex adultery," said Robin Mayer, who represented herself in her appeal to the court. The 1791 adultery statute was meant to apply only to heterosexual intercourse, she said. ...While none of the justices explicitly supported either side in the debate, several of them indicated they see obstacles to an expansive interpretation of the law."Our task is to be sure we interpret the constitution and these laws in line with what people thought at the time," Justice Joseph Nadeau said. ...Justice James Duggan said that without a "bright line" defining prohibited sex acts, it will be very difficult to decide what kind of conduct constitutes adultery. ..."The Ten Commandments say, 'Thou shalt not commit adultery.' It doesn't say, 'Thou shalt not have an intimate relationship with someone,' " Nadeau said.... Gay & Lesbian Advocates & Defenders (GLAD) filed a brief calling for equal treatment...."Gay and lesbian relationships are as significant as non-gay ones and therefore pose the same threat to the marital union. . . . New Hampshire courts should treat gay adultery the same no matter the gender of the person with whom a spouse engages in an extramarital relationship," they wrote. ...Adultery is a misdemeanor crime under New Hampshire law, and the criminal statute defines adultery simply as sexual intercourse between a married person and someone who is not that person's spouse. The criminal statute doesn't define the term "sexual intercourse."
Posted by Timothy,
2:36 PM
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Hussein's sons They might have killed them Update: I'm glad to learn that dartlogger was personally in the battle. Mr. Talcott also seems to follow sports, but I don't, so sorry.
Posted by Timothy,
2:13 PM
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No concern Wolfowitz told reporters: ''I'm not concerned about weapons of mass destruction...I'm concerned about getting Iraq on its feet. I didn't come (to Iraq) on a search for weapons of mass destruction...I'm not saying that getting to the bottom of this WMD issue isn't important. It is important. But it is not of immediate consequence.'' Atrios responds:
This is just the occasional reminder that the reason we need to find WMDs in Iraq, if they exist, isn't simply to help re-elect George Bush. It's also because if they really exist, and we don't know where they are, then we have a wee bit of a problem on our hands. That's why we went to war in the first place, remember. I'd find the notion that they really believed Iraq was a threat more plausible if all discussions of the weapons weren't simply about ass covering.
Posted by Timothy,
2:02 PM
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Japan and Rape Scandal here. A rape club was apparently organized at an elite Japanese univeristy. A senior member of parliament said that men in Japan lacked the courage to commit to marriage and said of the rapists: "Gang rape shows the people who do it are still virile, and that is OK... I think that might make them close to normal." Satoshi Sugita, a philosophy professor, said: "The case shows that Japanese men, especially young men are, contaminated with a rape myth that a girl who joins a party wants to have sex... Although having sex is totally different from being raped, men strongly believe that the two things are the same. It is because of an ideology that has spread in Japan through pornography... About 80 to 90 per cent of male high school students have seen an adult video, whose typical plot is a man raping a woman after having gotten her drunk." (link from politicaltheory) Anyone know anything more about this or have any thoughts?
Posted by Timothy,
11:43 AM
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Nader and co., redux
It looks like the Greens are serious about derailing the Democrat campaign:
Those who wanted a presidential candidate who would run the strongest possible campaign were asked to stand in one area. Those who wanted someone who would run only in areas where electoral votes would not be pulled from the Democratic presidential candidate stood in another. Those who wanted to skip the race altogether and, instead, support the Democratic candidate stood in yet another.
Sounds like fun. As Matthew Yglesias puts it: "If it weren't for the fact that the Greens' actions are responsible for causing hundreds of millions of people around the world to suffer, I would find their antics amusing."
On the more serious side, Philip Shropshire offers a few constructive suggestions for the Green party, like trying to shoehorn themselves into Congress:
Most house races have been gerrymandered out of competitiveness. Delay, especially if he succeeds in juryrigging the Texas map, will probably have a seat for life. Democrats know this and therefore expend very little resources on about 90 percent of the house races where they have no chance. I'm saying to the Greens, pick 10 or 20 seats that the Dems won't fight for anyway, which preferably have large college populations, perhaps stirred to anger about the prospect of both grant cuts and a new draft to build the empire, and shoot for 70 percent turnout.
He also suggests that a candidate like Dean should try promising Nader, et. al. a few cabinet seats in exchange for Greens support. I'm not sure that Dean (or the Greens) would be willing to do this, but it doesn't sound like a terrible idea.
Posted by Brad Plumer,
9:37 AM
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Monday, July 21, 2003 Syria, Hyping Intelligence, and Crazy Conservatives From the July 15 Miami Herald:
In a new dispute over interpreting intelligence data, the CIA and other agencies objected vigorously to a Bush administration assessment of the threat of Syria's weapons of mass destruction that was to be presented Tuesday on Capitol Hill. After the objections, the planned testimony by Undersecretary of State John R. Bolton, a leading administration hawk, was delayed until September. U.S. officials told Knight Ridder that Bolton was prepared to tell members of a House of Representatives International Relations subcommittee that Syria's development of biological, chemical and nuclear weapons had progressed to such a point that they posed a threat to stability in the region. The CIA and other intelligence agencies said that assessment was exaggerated... Bolton set off a controversy in May 2002 when he asserted in a speech that Cuba has a biological warfare program. A State Department intelligence expert, Christian Westermann, recently told a closed-door Senate Intelligence Committee hearing that available intelligence data don't support that assertion, U.S. officials have said... In testimony in June before the House International Relations Committee, Bolton said U.S. officials are "looking at Syria's nuclear program with growing concern and continue to monitor it for any signs of nuclear weapons intent." A CIA report submitted to Congress in April contained more cautionary language. Noting that Syria and Russia have reached preliminary agreement on civilian nuclear cooperation, the CIA report said only, "In principal, broader access to Russian expertise provides opportunities for Syria to expand its indigenous capabilities, should it decide to pursue nuclear weapons." In his June testimony, Bolton asserted that U.S. officials "know that Syria is pursuing the development of biological weapons." The CIA report said only that it's "highly probable that Syria is also continuing to develop an offensive BW (biological weapons) capability."
Posted by Timothy,
1:29 AM
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Anti-war rhetoric from Congress Terry Neal rips into the pro-war Democratic contenders, and then adds:
Earlier this week, a prominent politician went on national television raising questions about the Bush administration's policy in Iraq. Here are parts of what he said: "Did, in fact, individuals high up in the administration shape and mold this analysis of intelligence to serve their own purposes? I don't know. . . . We need to get the facts out, because this is in the interests of this administration. There's a cloud hanging over this administration." He continued: "We can't shoulder this burden alone. We are stretched so thin in so many areas that we just can't carry it. That's why we need the United Nations. We need NATO. We need our friends in this. It's serious. We didn't think through this very well before we got into it and we're now dealing with the consequences of not thinking through this." Who was this politician? Sen. Ted Kennedy (D-Mass.)? Dean perhaps? No, it was Sen. Chuck Hagel (R-Neb.) recipient of two Purple Hearts earned during his tour in Vietnam.
I saw Joe Biden on one of the Sunday talk shows, and he had some harsh words for the Bush administration. If we didn't get U.N. cooperation and other troops on the ground, he said, we'd either have to abandon Iraq or be overstretched. The Bushies didn't want an international coalition, and now more Americans are dying than need have.
Posted by Timothy,
11:59 PM
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Bushies deceived, families grieved That seems a less harsh line than 'Bush lied, people died.' But whatever you might want to say, and however you want to parse the president's statements, this was not an honest mistake on the part of the Bush Administration. At best, it was a fuck-up born of arrogance through pursuing a deliberate path that ended up politicizing intelligence. If you're tempting to say that intelligence is not perfect and is always an art, do not forget how the Bushies pushed the careerists at the CIA to change the way intelligence was looked at. Apparently they thought there was a better way of doing this art, and that got us into 'we don't know it is absolutely false' territory. Josh Marshall writes:
Until we got into Iraq we really couldn't say for certain what we'd find. Perhaps the politicals were right and the Agency's more cautious estimations of the Iraqi threat would be exposed as hopelessly naive. But now we're there. And from what we've found so far, the Bush administration's revisionist view of Iraq seems far more deeply flawed than what Hoagland called the Agency's "long-standing and deeply flawed analysis of Iraq." ... But it doesn't cut it to say, "This is just an intelligence failure. The White House just went with what they were being told." Why? Because you can't separate our failure to find a lot of what we thought we'd find in Iraq from the "war" the administration has been fighting with the intelligence community for the last two years. If the administration spent the previous two years "at war" with the CIA, pushing them harder and harder into a set of assumptions (and in many cases conclusions) that turned out to be wildly off-the-mark, shouldn't there be some political accountability for what turned out to be at best a very poor call?
Posted by Timothy,
11:06 PM
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InstaHowler Instapundit has been linking to Daily Howler posts last week, but strangely didn't link to this one:
What did Bush say in his State of the Union? Here is the statement in question:
BUSH: The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa.
Did Saddam “seek significant quantities of uranium from Africa?” Bush didn’t say that the Brits believe this. He didn’t say that the Brits have made such a claim. Instead, Bush said that the Brits have learned that this happened—and as such, he implied that the Brits’ claim was true. Bush’s statement may even turn out to be accurate, but at this point, Rice doesn’t know if it is. She was bending it—bending it good—in her Fox News Sunday performance. And Barnes and Snow were in the weeds because of her shape-shifting work.
The day after, the Daily Howler got even madder at the press. I'm guessing it was because for so long he defended Al Gore for being truthful when he refered to a Tennessee newspaper story that said he and his wife Tipper were models for Love Story. All those right wingers who teased Al Gore mercilessly for Love Story (including, if I recall correctly, an entire cover story in the Weekly Standard) do not seem to be holding Bush to the same standards. It's honest of the Daily Howler to be mad at the press for being unfair to Bush in the same way the press was to Gore, but disingenous for people to cite him as a lefty type who thinks the press is not reporting yellowcake right, when the Daily Howler thinks that Bush lies A LOT, that there is stuff on Iraq that needs be looked into, and that the Daily Howler's beef with the press comes from a treatment of Al Gore that many right wing pundits (and establishment media figures) did much to promote-- for them to cite him now can show their own shifting double standards.
I find it hard to believe nobody on this Iraq-happy blog has noticed the scandal enveloping the BBC's "sexed-up" dossier story. But nobody's posted anything on it. I thought it was the left-wing media sources that are really "fair and balanced"? Tsk tsk. Ten points from Gryffindor.
The BBC's source on the intelligence manipulation, Dr. David Kelly, recently committed suicide. He was not an intelligence official. There is are suspicions that the suicide was, in part, caused by Kelly's misrepresentation. The scandal has been going for a few days, but neither the government nor the BBC have been able to effectively pin all the blame on the other for this man's tragic death. At any rate, the BBC's famously unbiased reporting is suddenly looking very, very shaky, and Downing Street is looking much more believable.
Here's one link, though the BBC is loaded with them. The NY Times has an article on the affair as well, speaking of lost trust in media.